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[native-nutrition] Re: Vaccinations: Where do I begin?

Elaine, this post was very thoughtful and well put. It is so hard
being an nt mom in this society! I feel the pressure to conform
already, people offering my son cookies and candy and the like - and
he's only 14 months. All my local friends with kids feed soy milk and
low fat stuff. On the playground I worry kids are meaner because they
don't get enough butter. And how will that affect my son -- both my
perception and the reality of kiddie social life -- when I consider
most kids malnourished? Maybe we with young kids should all move to
one place. Daphne
--- In native-nutrition@yahoogroups.com, Elaine <itchyink@s...> wrote:

I think Christie hit the nail on the head with some good back up.
Vaccines
can be effective, and,, as we know in humans, ,they can also be
dangerous or
deadly. I was recently the subject of a story on chicken pox
vaccines that
made it all the way to national NPR news (it was about moms who have
chicken
pox parties). I learned some things as a result of that experience
that i
didn't know. One, the rate of chicken pox has gone down considerably
since
the vaccine was introduced (or if children get it, it is much
milder, same
with measles, etc.). Two, children DO die from chicken pox. I know
bc i was
interviewed on a radio show by a talk host whose two year old died from
chicken pox. She ended up with lesions on her heart. I still won't
vax for
chicken pox though.

The whooping cough story posted here is not the first i have heard
and it is
one disease i am really scared of my kids getting. It is still going
around.

Sure, if you eat the perfect diet, etc. your chances of not getting
sick or
not getting that sick are much better. But you have to be honest with
yourself -- how perfect is your kid's diet going to be? Will they
not get
cake and ice cream at the many bday parties they attend? Have you
seen the
kid at bday parties who doesn't get any? I have. It is pretty
depressing.
Will they not get a few Goldfish crackers that inevitably get passed
around
at play dates? Will you not put them in preschool bc the food will
inevitably be sub par? Will you not let them play at friends' houses
bc you
can't control what they will eat there? Will you rush out in a panic
bc the
neighbor brought over a cold Hi-C juice box for them? Even Sally
says it in
NT: unless you raise them in a closet or in isolation from ordinary
American
life, you are going to have a hard time keeping them on a perfect
diet if
they have friends, play dates, school, etc. (we will homeschool but
imperfect foods abound).

Again, I don't vax, but i am frankly sick and tired of the knee-jerk
anti-vax rhetoric. I want some honest, non-dogmatic, unemotional
discussion
of the realities of this topic. Not vaxing scares me bc my kids, esp. my
extremely picky 5-year-old do not have a perfect diet. She is pretty
healthy
but i'm not sure how well she'd fare with a bad case of whooping
cough and i
don't even want to be in the hospital with her for that. My
two-year-old is
breastfed still and that gives her a fighting chance, but then she's so
young.

In fact, i am considering selective vaxing when they both hit six
years old,
which is when i've read their immune system is more developed. But the
injury rates and deaths from vaxes (and i personally know people
affected)
scare me to death too. Tough business having children. We will do
ANYTHING
to protect them and with the vax issue i feel we are potentially damned
either way.
Elaine




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