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Re: question about the protocol in Guidelines and the book

  • Subject: Re: question about the protocol in Guidelines and the book
  • Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:28:09 -0000
  • Yahoo! Message Number: 17134
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--- In frequent-dose-chelation@yahoogroups.com, "Nancy Jacobs" <illusory> wrote:


Hi,

I was looking through the Amalgam Illness book, ready to start my
DMSA, and couldn't find the advice that matches the Guidelines here by
Dean and TK.

In AI, I'm finding on page 90, where Cutler says to begin with 50-100
mg dmsa every 4 hours, and he doesn't say to do it in rounds at first.
He only seems to talk about rounds when you begin to do ALA with DMSA.
He seems to be saying that you do dmsa continuously at 4 hour
intervals till you get it basically cleared from your blood. Then to
begin the DMSA with ALA on the 'rounds' schedule. I've read this over
and over, but that's what I get from it.

Later on pg 131, he briefly refers to 'proper protocol', and mentions
"DMSA every 3-4 hours on alternate weeks" for 2-6 months, implying
rounds. Here the dosage isn't mentioned at all, it's apparently
referring to what was said earlier, when rounds weren't mentioned.
???

Can anyone clarify what this is all about?

Yes.

You are studious. My compliments.

You can do any of the chelators in rounds of 3 days if you want. The ALA is most side-
effecty, so it is most compelling for a lot of people to stop at that point.

Most people tolerate week long rounds of DMSA or DMPS just fine. Longer rounds are
suggested if they are convenient and you tolerate them OK. The book is written as if you
are doing this. However if you need to cut it back, do at least 3 days at a time.

Is there anywhere in the
book where the protocol is clearly spelled out, or this difference is
resolved? If not, how were the guidelines, which are so much clearer,
arrived at?

The chelation protocol itself is actually laid out more clearly in my book Hair Test
Interpretation: Finding Hidden Toxicities

www.noamlagam.com/hairtestbook.html

and the guidelines given here are (mostly, I admit I didn't go review all the earlier e-mails)
what I have arrived at in discussions on these lists and in case consultations with many
people over the last 8 years.

The part most people find confusing is to have a good technical perspectiveand
understand what parts of the protocol are flexible and which parts are utterly fixed by the
laws of nature and have to be adhered to rigidly.

The rigid, must do it right parts are:

Adequately frequent dosing, DMPS every 8 hours or more often, DMSA every 4 or more
often, ALA every 3-4 or more often (3 preferred).

Adequately long cycles (at least 3 days, AM of day 1 to bedtime of day 3 most convenient).

If you miss a dose by more than 25% of the time allowed (1 h for ALA or DMSA, 2 h for
DMPS), stop.

If you goof and don't stop after a missed dose, continue until the scheduled end time or
longer.

The flexible parts are:

How much to take,

How much more often than the above intervals to take it,

How much longer than 3 days to go.

Hope this helps.

thanks,
NJ




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